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On the cover of a water damaged book... :lol:

[link] (this link works 4 non-UKrs, yeah?) triggered it, but its really the more extreme end of the ideas found in 'vitals' by Greg Bear...
The closest thing in the new scientist article is only infered: "Kids who have certain bacterial infections can be very compulsive about touching their mouths, which helps the spread."

We know parasites can modify hosts behaviour, but maybe bacteria too... they are definatly talking...

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Mood: Joy ~doyveyant Mar 8, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Their poor "ears". Listening to all our codswallop! I like this. :)
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~object000 Mar 8, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
They're pretty noisy too! From a sample of 2 soil bacteria over 100 chemical signals were detected!
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!bizarreblizzard Mar 8, 2010  Professional General Artist
tell you what i noticed while being in agglomerated spaces
if one person starts coughing usually a few others start coughing too
though i don't know if it is bacterial intelligence or sympathy
since if you see somebody yawning you often get the same reflex
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~object000 Mar 8, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
That would be some fast acting bugs... Maybe that more the result of our mirror-neurons?
But then we sneeze cos viruses make us so we spread them... Irratating the throat is still quita a stretch from controlling behaviours. Toxoplasmas do though...
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!bizarreblizzard Mar 8, 2010  Professional General Artist
the concept of intelligence is often confused with logic and circumvolutions/stored information
there's no proof though a bacteria can't use more "ram" than a memory chip
energy is not only electrical and information is not always magnetic
a book is not magnetic
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~object000 Mar 9, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
I think it may be a mistake to draw a hard&fast distinction between inteligent & non intilegent systems (although that route can lead into a long discussion of sematics), and the idea that electrical & magnetic systems are necessary is patently wrong: Our brains created computers, and use a wide variety of chemical (and electrical) systems... maybe quantum effects too? Not to mention chemical data like DNA...
And "Boltzmann brains"? [link] Thay're a long shot, but...
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!bizarreblizzard Mar 9, 2010  Professional General Artist
a fractal progression needs space to manifest
everything is motion/interraction
ignoring time/space and the concept of distance
you get a pulse/ the pace
the relativity of thys rhythm or absolute lack of it
can only be theory
mind generaly reffers to stored/manipulated knowledge...
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~object000 Mar 9, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
Can't quite picture the punctuation in that one... Computers store&manipulate 'knowlege', unless you infer understanding... and are not reall minds. Although again, I don't know enough of the technical definitions not to end up bogged down in semantics. Another Greg Bear book has the globally interacting bacteria as a 'mind'... Could a mind be more reactive than dedutive?
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!bizarreblizzard Mar 9, 2010  Professional General Artist
deduction is the result of reaction
even improvisation is the result of a want/need

deduction is the shortest line between two points
but nothing is really straight in the universe
you have chain reactions, the planet is a sphere not a stick, the phi ratio is a spiral progression...
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~object000 Mar 9, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
I suppose I was thinking concious/seff-aware deduction. You could say a plant deduces the position of the sun to turn and face it, but it is an evolved chemical and pnumatic reaction to light... The line between seeing the sun rise and fall, and deducing the orbits of the planets was pretty convoluted, but maybe the shortest line through our minds...
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